well, I would also love to do without, but with some revenue from the adds, I might be able to run the board on its own server (which would increase speed and uploads). Additionally it will allow me to add more gimmicks to the board, like a webcam chat (which I currently plan). So all members will will profit from that. If I place the adds on the bottom, nobody will see or click them and the revenue will be 0. You probably remember a similar discussion at sh.net ... Thanks for your support & understanding!